<div dir="auto">Adam had a detailed write up on this when it started acting up again. I'm attaching it here.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The short of it is that the booster pumps are taking ~30 seconds to spin up when needed and, under heavy load, that's allowing the system pressure to drop. The long term solution likely involves the plc programming to be updated, but finding a programmer isn't trivial.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">MT</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 14, 2025, 4:45 PM Mary Hinton <<a href="mailto:mehinton99@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mehinton99@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Yochai, TL;DR for this whole thread is:<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Camelot and Mosaic's (Sawyer Hill EcoVillage as a whole) water system is award-winning (seriously, but I forget which year) but it is currently haunted, and a combination of manual intervention and/or water/fire service vendor calls is happening if not daily, at least weekly.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Welcome to Camelot! (I promise this is temporary, for some value of "temporary"...or at the very least, it is not the expected behavior of the system and we are employing paid and volunteer water-ghost exorcists to try to return the water to normal, award-winning status)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 14, 2025, 4:34 PM Tara Halwes <<a href="mailto:tarahalwes@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tarahalwes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Reminder: </div><div dir="auto"><div><span style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important;background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0);border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>If anyone is *currently* experiencing low or no water pressure, please immediately contact the water list, cc'd.</b></span></div><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Other notes:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We had the cistern filling *very* briefly today for a few minutes between 2:30-3pm. We checked the fresh water level before and after just to be sure we didn't affect anything. There was no significant change to the level. There was an active alarm at the Mosaic Common House Shortly before that which is why we deployed to the pump house to make sure the fire cistern level was still good for next time, in case this alarm had caused sprinklers to go off. None of that should have any effect on individuals' water pressure at home.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Otherwise, if folks having ongoing milder issues would like their observations to be useful for general troubleshooting, please include date and time of the observed behavior, especially when it's:<br></div><div dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">- More than 24 hours after a known sitewide water issue</div><div dir="auto">- That faucet has been opened more than a few times since the most recent known water issue and you thought it had cleared by now</div><div dir="auto">- You're not aware of any known water issue, but the sputter self-resolved before you had time to finish the thought "maybe I should call Adam"</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div><span style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important;background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0);border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">Again, if anyone is *currently* experiencing low or no water pressure, please </span><span style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important;background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0);border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>immediately contact the water list, cc'd</b></span><span style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important;background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0);border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">. You can also copy all of Camelot, or individuals, but the important thing is to notify the water list, as they</span><span style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important;background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0);border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)"> need to know immediately when there’s a potentially new problem with the water outside</span><span style="font-size:19px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important;background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0);border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)"> of what’s already been reported, such as the outage this past weekend.</span></div><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">@taraha</div><div dir="auto">508-361-9605</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 15:42 Gregory Stuart Pettigrew <<a href="mailto:gpettigrew@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gpettigrew@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto"><div>Same at 61 and my hot water heater is 3 months old.</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">- Gregory Stuart Burdick Pettigrew</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 14, 2025, 15:39 Bonnie Heile <<a href="mailto:bonnie@librarylady.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bonnie@librarylady.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Same issues at 76 and my hot water heater is only two years old. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 3:32 PM Ryan Welch <<a href="mailto:welch.ryan.d@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">welch.ryan.d@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">It’s certainly not “normal” behavior, but it is common. We’ve (communally) had a lot of water trouble this summer.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>I don't know if it's worth reporting fluctuations anymore, but for true loss of pressure you should email <a href="mailto:water@sawyerhill.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">water@sawyerhill.org</a> ASAP.</div><div><br></div><div>It's interesting to hear that you've lost hot water a couple of times. We have a traditional water heater as opposed to your solar system, but it's been sputtery and (even more) noisy since we lost pressure last weekend. It's only gone out fully once this week. We've been attributing it to the age of the heater, since afaik it's original to the house.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 2:58 PM Yochai Gal <<a href="mailto:yochaigal@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">yochaigal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">In the past week we've had a lot of water pressure issues in our home. The shower will suddenly lose pressure, then return again a minute later. The same thing has happened while washing dishes as well. We've also lost hot water on at least two occasions.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is this normal behavior, or should we follow-up with someone?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks.</div></div>
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